# Case Proposal: The website is open-source

**URL:** <https://tosdr.community/t/case-proposal-the-website-is-open-source/1784>\
**Category:** Case Discussions\
**Created:** [May 1, 2021, 9:28pm UTC](https://tosdr.community/t/case-proposal-the-website-is-open-source/1784 "2021-05-01T21:28:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![lxda](https://tosdr.community/user_avatar/tosdr.community/lxda/32/741_2.png) [@lxda](https://tosdr.community/u/lxda)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2021, 9:28pm UTC](https://tosdr.community/t/case-proposal-the-website-is-open-source/1784/1 "2021-05-01T21:28:52Z")

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I propose the following data to be a new case:

| Fields | Data |
| --- | --- |
| Name | The website is open-source |
| Description | The code of website is open-source and the users can be access of code source. |
| Classification | good |
| Topic | [https://edit.tosdr.org/topics/10](https://edit.tosdr.org/topics/10) |
| Weight | 30 |

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**Author:** ![Agnes\_de\_Lion](https://tosdr.community/user_avatar/tosdr.community/agnes_de_lion/32/263_2.png) [@Agnes\_de\_Lion](https://tosdr.community/u/Agnes_de_Lion)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2021, 9:32pm UTC](https://tosdr.community/t/case-proposal-the-website-is-open-source/1784/2 "2021-05-01T21:32:13Z")

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There’s currently an existing case that applies to this, if I understood well: [Features of the website are made available under a free software license](https://edit.tosdr.org/cases/171)  
Nevertheless, I think your phrasing is much more clear, so perhaps we should change the current case’s title to avoid confusion.

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**Author:** ![lxda](https://tosdr.community/user_avatar/tosdr.community/lxda/32/741_2.png) [@lxda](https://tosdr.community/u/lxda)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2021, 9:36pm UTC](https://tosdr.community/t/case-proposal-the-website-is-open-source/1784/3 "2021-05-01T21:36:03Z")

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There is a difference between free software and open-source software.

A free software or web site must be open source and respect the points of the Free Software Foundation to be considered as free (at least by the community). Whereas a website or an application can be open source without necessarily being free.

So maybe we have to make the difference between the two.

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**Author:** ![Agnes\_de\_Lion](https://tosdr.community/user_avatar/tosdr.community/agnes_de_lion/32/263_2.png) [@Agnes\_de\_Lion](https://tosdr.community/u/Agnes_de_Lion)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2021, 9:39pm UTC](https://tosdr.community/t/case-proposal-the-website-is-open-source/1784/4 "2021-05-01T21:39:59Z")

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It makes sense, I support the new case proposal then!  
The weight fits well too.  
In which topic would it be? In the proposal it is written [https://edit.tosdr.org/topics/10](https://edit.tosdr.org/topics/10) although the link leads nowhere to me.

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**Author:** ![lxda](https://tosdr.community/user_avatar/tosdr.community/lxda/32/741_2.png) [@lxda](https://tosdr.community/u/lxda)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2021, 9:42pm UTC](https://tosdr.community/t/case-proposal-the-website-is-open-source/1784/5 "2021-05-01T21:42:39Z")

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Cool!

I wanted to put it in the topic Transparency

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**Author:** ![justin](https://tosdr.community/user_avatar/tosdr.community/justin/32/1657_2.png) [@justin](https://tosdr.community/u/justin)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2021, 3:33am UTC](https://tosdr.community/t/case-proposal-the-website-is-open-source/1784/6 "2021-05-02T03:33:35Z")

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> [@lxda](#):
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> A free software or web site must be open source

This is not true, free software can be open source but it’s not a requirement or law.

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**Author:** ![lxda](https://tosdr.community/user_avatar/tosdr.community/lxda/32/741_2.png) [@lxda](https://tosdr.community/u/lxda)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2021, 10:37am UTC](https://tosdr.community/t/case-proposal-the-website-is-open-source/1784/7 "2021-05-02T10:37:17Z")

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I don’t know if we are talking about the same free software. I am talking (in French) about “Libre” software and not “Gratuit” software. But in the law, I don’t think that “Libre” software is described. It is described by the FSF.

But then, I think it deserves the creation of this case.

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**Author:** ![lxda](https://tosdr.community/user_avatar/tosdr.community/lxda/32/741_2.png) [@lxda](https://tosdr.community/u/lxda)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2021, 10:02am UTC](https://tosdr.community/t/case-proposal-the-website-is-open-source/1784/8 "2021-05-03T10:02:30Z")

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I take the liberty of reopening the subject of this box proposal.

If it is accepted, could we add a new point ?  
The software code is open-source  
The code of the servers is open-source

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**Author:** ![justin](https://tosdr.community/user_avatar/tosdr.community/justin/32/1657_2.png) [@justin](https://tosdr.community/u/justin)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 6:46am UTC](https://tosdr.community/t/case-proposal-the-website-is-open-source/1784/9 "2021-05-04T06:46:03Z")

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Yeah I was mistaken, I interpret “Free” software as in Zero Costs not “Freedom” 🙂

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**Author:** ![Agnes\_de\_Lion](https://tosdr.community/user_avatar/tosdr.community/agnes_de_lion/32/263_2.png) [@Agnes\_de\_Lion](https://tosdr.community/u/Agnes_de_Lion)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 5:48pm UTC](https://tosdr.community/t/case-proposal-the-website-is-open-source/1784/10 "2021-05-04T17:48:40Z")

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No bad opinions have been expressed, so the case is now on Phoenix!  
[Terms of Service; Didn't Read - Phoenix](https://edit.tosdr.org/cases/485)  
Also, I’ve updated the description of [Case 171](https://edit.tosdr.org/cases/171) to make clearer the difference between libre and open-source software.

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**Author:** ![justin](https://tosdr.community/user_avatar/tosdr.community/justin/32/1657_2.png) [@justin](https://tosdr.community/u/justin)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 5:50pm UTC](https://tosdr.community/t/case-proposal-the-website-is-open-source/1784/11 "2021-05-04T17:50:50Z")

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> [@Agnes\_de\_Lion](#):
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> Also, I’ve updated the description of [Case 171](https://edit.tosdr.org/cases/171) to make clearer the difference between libre and open-source software

Love it! Now its way more clear for non-native english speakers!

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**Author:** ![lxda](https://tosdr.community/user_avatar/tosdr.community/lxda/32/741_2.png) [@lxda](https://tosdr.community/u/lxda)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 6:14pm UTC](https://tosdr.community/t/case-proposal-the-website-is-open-source/1784/12 "2021-05-04T18:14:24Z")

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should we do the same with software:

“the software is open-source”

To make the difference between free and open source. because it is especially in the case of software that people make the confusion.

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**Author:** ![justin](https://tosdr.community/user_avatar/tosdr.community/justin/32/1657_2.png) [@justin](https://tosdr.community/u/justin)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 6:16pm UTC](https://tosdr.community/t/case-proposal-the-website-is-open-source/1784/13 "2021-05-04T18:16:56Z")

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I think this is a special case where “service” can be properly applied because ToS;DR also rates apps in some cases where the term website does not apply.

“The service is open-source”

While we are at it, should we make a case that has a higher weight than this one called “The service is FOSS”? Since open-source does not necessarily mean that everything is fully open-source

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**Author:** ![Agnes\_de\_Lion](https://tosdr.community/user_avatar/tosdr.community/agnes_de_lion/32/263_2.png) [@Agnes\_de\_Lion](https://tosdr.community/u/Agnes_de_Lion)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 6:20pm UTC](https://tosdr.community/t/case-proposal-the-website-is-open-source/1784/14 "2021-05-04T18:20:30Z")

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> [@lxda](#):
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> should we do the same with software:
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> “the software is open-source”

What about changing the current case “The website is open-source” to “The service is open-source”?

> [@justin](#):
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> While we are at it, should we make a case that has a higher weight than this one called “The service is FOSS”? Since open-source does not necessarily mean that everything is fully open-source

FOSS means Free and Open Source Software if I’m not mistaken, which would fall under [Features of the website are made available under a free software license](https://edit.tosdr.org/cases/171)

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**Author:** ![justin](https://tosdr.community/user_avatar/tosdr.community/justin/32/1657_2.png) [@justin](https://tosdr.community/u/justin)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 6:21pm UTC](https://tosdr.community/t/case-proposal-the-website-is-open-source/1784/15 "2021-05-04T18:21:31Z")

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> [@Agnes\_de\_Lion](#):
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> FOSS means Free and Open Source Software if I’m not mistaken, which would fall under [Features of the website are made available under a free software license](https://edit.tosdr.org/cases/171)

Forget what I just said 🤦‍♂️, darn acronyms.

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**Author:** ![Arlo](https://tosdr.community/user_avatar/tosdr.community/arlo/32/24_2.png) [@Arlo](https://tosdr.community/u/Arlo)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 6:34pm UTC](https://tosdr.community/t/case-proposal-the-website-is-open-source/1784/17 "2021-05-04T18:34:20Z")

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I’ve heard ‘source-available’ ([source available license - Wikidata](https://wikidata.org/wiki/Q94920209)) as a term that carries no connotations of licensing (that is, software freedom) either way.

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**Author:** ![lxda](https://tosdr.community/user_avatar/tosdr.community/lxda/32/741_2.png) [@lxda](https://tosdr.community/u/lxda)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://tosdr.community/t/case-proposal-the-website-is-open-source/1784/18 "2021-05-04T18:35:07Z")

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> [@Agnes\_de\_Lion](#):
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> What about changing the current case “The website is open-source” to “The service is open-source”?

parce que ce sont principalement des logiciels qui sont open-source, mais parfois les sites web le sont (Sorry for the english people)

(because it’s principally for softwares the open-source appellation, but sometimes website are that too)

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**Author:** ![lxda](https://tosdr.community/user_avatar/tosdr.community/lxda/32/741_2.png) [@lxda](https://tosdr.community/u/lxda)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 9:07pm UTC](https://tosdr.community/t/case-proposal-the-website-is-open-source/1784/19 "2021-05-04T21:07:00Z")

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After thinking about it, we should as Justin said, name this point “The service is open-source” and then change “the service” in the title by the thing concerned.

What do you think?

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**Author:** ![Agnes\_de\_Lion](https://tosdr.community/user_avatar/tosdr.community/agnes_de_lion/32/263_2.png) [@Agnes\_de\_Lion](https://tosdr.community/u/Agnes_de_Lion)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2021, 9:07pm UTC](https://tosdr.community/t/case-proposal-the-website-is-open-source/1784/20 "2021-05-09T21:07:29Z")

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